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Interviewing with HDSLRs - Part 1, Audio
As early adopters in the HDSLR world, we get a lot of e-mails asking, quite simply, how we do things & what equipment we recommend. Naturally, we push back on the discussions that focus purely on equipment. On any given day you’ll see a dozen re-tweets like “it’s not what’s in your bag, it’s how you tell a story” and we couldn’t agree more. Even with a pretty solid background in production technology, a conversation strictly about equipment has become . . . well . . . distasteful.
However, at some point, somebody who’s got a little experience with what to invest in, what to avoid, and what to keep in mind should step up. So, I’ll share some ideas in a 3-part blog entry geared specifically towards shooting interviews. (Most questions center around what’s the best way to capture direct-address, interview, and “my story” content . . . it’s at the center of what we do & it makes sense that the majority of the equipment questions that we get center around these styles.)
Here are some thoughts about audio . . .
The question is “what do you do for audio?”
Since current HDSLRs don’t have line-level inputs, no metering, monitoring & the world’s cheapest (auto-gain) microphone pre-amplifiers, recording audio separately is the only good option. There are a number of devices out there that claim all sorts of things (Beachtek, JuicedLink, etc.) but you simply can’t get around the camera’s crappy microphone pre-amps no matter how much money you spend on an interface device & how good their marketing is. So recording audio (that matters) has to be done using a separate device at this point.
I feel obliged to mention that I consider the SoundDevices 744T to be the right tool for most broadcast-level work. But for everyday industrial work (especially interviews) I like my Edirol R4 Pro. But those devices (and the Marantz, Tascam & others) are pretty big, relative to the new size expectations of the HDSLR generation. So a lot of people (including us) end up with the Zoom H4n.
The good news is that the Zoom H4N is very convenient, and great for picking up stereo sound effects & ambience, too. I’ve used it to capture a handful of foley sounds—not that I wasn’t willing to pay $3.60 to download the right sound, but so far, I’ve been able to record exactly what I wanted in less time that it would have taken me to find a good match online. BTW, you’ll want something like the Maha PowerEx charger and a pack of high-capacity rechargeable batteries (at least 2,000 mAh). The zoom won’t last through most shoots on regular store-bought Alkaline batteries, even in the power-saving “stamina” mode. Oh, and this might be a good place to mention how much we love the Redhead Windscreen. Everyone with a portable recorder should have one of these.
But the Zoom isn’t a silver bullet & here’s why: For interviews in everyday environments, we use pretty nice lavalier microphones (the Sanken COS-11s). In fact, the microphones costs 1.5 times more than the recorder itself—and you can tell; the microphone preamps on the Zoom don’t do justice to the full sound of the Sanken. So yeah, the Zoom is very portable, but I seem to be on a short list of people who’s outspoken on the poor sound quality of the Zoom when used to record from microphone sources. But it fits the bill when we need better sound that the camera can provide & when taking a full-size hard disc recorder just isn’t an option. I’d like to A/B test the Zoom with the Tascam DR-100 but I haven’t gotten around to it yet.
As with all 2-piece recording systems, you can sync the audio to the video using a variety of methods. Some (like the “Indy clap”) don’t cost a cent. But a $45.00 Standard Slate from FilmTools.com is a good investment if you’re serious about coming across as a professional. (After all, your client is probably wondering if you grabbed the wrong camera!)
Of course, pages could be written comparing microphones & their price points, multi-track recording, connecting a mixer to a HDSLR with a mini plug for reference audio & all sorts of other things we’ve experienced. But if you’re like us, 80% of your audio is taken care of using the equipment & techniques I’ve suggested here.
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Comments
Kudos to you Dave for engaging in the “distasteful” equipment conversation.
I fully agree that gear doesn’t translate to artistry or good storytelling - but theres nothing worse that spending money on gear only to discover after a few shoots that you bought the wrong thing. Your experience and opinion is invaluable!
By Jesse Oxford on Feb 27, 2010 - 5:41pm
I’ve been looking into both the Zoom and the Tascam that you showed me awhile back. They’re both relatively the same price, so I’m not sure what to get yet…but I’ve heard good things of the Zoom’s onboard mics.
Have you seen the new Beachtek that Bloom reviewed? It kills the auto gain by sending a signal to the left channel that the gain focuses on, and then the right channel is left alone for whatever it picks up. Interesting…
By Brandon Christensen on Feb 27, 2010 - 9:49pm
One add-on point to make is to make sure to choose a portable recorder that has XLR inputs. There are other less expensive portable recorders that only have 1/8” inputs, but won’t work if you want to use a boom mic that uses XLR cable.
Since I can’t afford a “nice” lapel mic right now, I use my boom mic to capture interview audio.
By David Hunter on Feb 28, 2010 - 6:19pm
For syncing audio have you tried the PluralEyes plugin? If so, thoughts?
http://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyes.html
By Mike Jones on Mar 1, 2010 - 1:11am
Thoughts on PluralEyes for Mike Jones:
Works great but isn’t the end all be all. I recently did a 3 camera shoot with no markers and it saved my but. It worked really well for my needs. Definitely check out the tutorials on their sit as well.
http://www.singularsoftware.com/tutorials.html
I would suggest setting up a test shoot and giving the trial run before buying. The price of $150 is well worth it though in my opinion.
By Corbyn Tyson on Mar 1, 2010 - 1:52pm
Heads up, ebay has $309 package deals on the zoom recorder that includes 16GB card, mini tripod, remote control, & headphones! Good deal considering the recorder itself is $300 at B&H Photo/Video.
By David Hunter on Mar 1, 2010 - 9:31pm
The Zoom has worked pretty well for us. So has PluralEyes. Two system sound has changed my workflow and editing techniques… so keep that in mind. It now takes an extra 2-8 hours to get our footage edit-ready.
Also, we’ve had a little trouble with the H4Ns phantom power feature. Battery life is very sketchy, going from full, to one bar, then dead in a matter of minutes. And when the unit dies, the file it was recording is lost forever. We mitigate this shortfall by plugging it in whenever possible.
But the bottom line for me is that the H4N is an amazing piece of gear for it’s price and size. The on-board stereo mics sound great too!
By Justin Jackson on Mar 2, 2010 - 4:08pm
This is amazing. Great post now I have some option to take.
By Rebel Canon on Aug 13, 2010 - 7:19pm
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